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defiant second grader (well since kinder) 8 months ago #8243

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I have one very defiant student and I am having some trouble getting him to follow procedures, do work and listen. He eventually does comply, but it is a battle all day, every day. He pretty much tries to do what he wants until I threaten him with the office. HELP

Re: defiant second grader (well since kinder) 8 months ago #8254

Psheilds, threatean-office hum, that is his out and he will push until he gets it. I might try this instead place him near the bossy, chatty Kathy in your room. You know the one who wants your job. When Mr. No work starts, ask miss Kathy to help her neighbor and the rest of the class follow the rules, walk to the scoreboard and having a big mighty groan.
Peer pressure works very well.
Step 2, if he is the only one I doubt that, practice that rule ask him to demo the wrong way giving him the attention he wants and then immediately correct and practice together the right way. He could be your rehearsal leader.
Did this help?
Annette

Re: defiant second grader (well since kinder) 8 months ago #8259

Love and Logic is a good read and effective. Constructive consequences are too (responsive classroom). I have one of my defient students take a break from the room (neighbors room) and he can come back when ready to comply to class rules - I word it so he's in control of his actions, not me. I also place the broken rule by their name and students have to practice during their time (recess) - they also have to make up any lost work from time spent being defient.
I would just hold him accountable in making up the time lost in spending on doing what he wants. He can either spend his class time focused on that and make up work in his time, or spend class time more wisely. I would also speak "love and logic" with him. Ex: "I understand it must be hard to focus, but the work needs to be done..." Sound sincere, but be firm.
Hope some of this helps.

Re: defiant second grader (well since kinder) 8 months ago #8263

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I use Capturing Kids Hearts which is similar to Love and Logic. I do send him to a neighbor's class, he misses some PE and works in the office, he misses recess and sits and does nothing even though he can go to recess after he finishes some work. He does do his graded work, just not the classwork. I have been holding off on the White Practice cards since we have only been in school for 19 days.

Re: defiant second grader (well since kinder) 8 months ago #8267

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Hi pshields-

I have a handful of students in my room this year that think they should be in charge, and that they can do whatever they want. I introduced my class leaders fairly early on, showing that students who are following the classroom rules and working hard will be leaders. I have one student that will throw himself on the floor and throw a very loud, disruptive temper tantrum in my room on a daily, almost hourly, basis. However, he always asks if he can be a class leader. I explain to him that the leaders that I have in my class have shown me they can handle a leadership role. I am also getting ready to display my Improver Wall. With this, those students who are struggling with behavior can focus on improving in that area, and my kiddos that are breaking SuperSpeed and Homework goals can improve in those areas. We are also a PBIS (Positive Behavior Intervention Supports) School, so we have different levels of intervention in place. My defiant kiddos have also had a time out of the classroom to cool down and complete a Think Sheet where they can tell me what was going on to make them act in the manner they did. We then discuss the Think Sheet and work on replacement behaviors they can put in place. Hope this helps.

Thanks,
Staci Glass
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Re: defiant second grader (well since kinder) 1 week, 3 days ago #10182

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Could you post a copy of the think sheet?
Thanks!

Re: defiant second grader (well since kinder) 1 week ago #10223

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Hi athens132!

Sorry I haven't gotten back to you before now. I've been out on maternity leave, recently returned, and am balancing the end of school, mommy of 3 boys 4 and under, and just life in general. I would be happy to send you a copy of our think sheet. However, it won't let me attach it to my message, so I will have to e-mail it to you. Let me know when you get it and if you have any questions about it.

Thanks,
Staci Glass
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